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3T-Motors 434Mhz senders / receivers
#1
I recently bought these components:

Sender: "3T FUNK-TIMER HANDSENDER 15-KANAL HST15"
http://www.3t-motors.de/3T-Funk-Steuerun...HST15.html

Receiver: "3T UP-Rollladenschalter WE1 mit integriertem Funkempfänger"
http://www.3t-motors.de/3T-Funk-Steuerun...Kanal.html

These components have no dip switches and the receiver is self-learning. The sender supports up to 15 devices.
These components don´t seem to be supported by pilight 6.0 so far. With pilight-receive no protocol is found. The components operate in 434 MHz mode.
Receiving raw codes from the wireless sender works well in pilight-debug mode. So far I have analysed that 82 pulses are being sent and a 2-pulse-header as well as a 2-pulse-footer are used.

Is it of interest that I post the corresponding raw-outputs for a protocol development?
 
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#2
Yes, go ahead Smile

Please read the sticky thread at the top of the protocol development forum to make sure you follow all the rules (i.e. include raw codes, etc.)
 
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#3
The 3T remote control has UP / DOWN / HOLD buttons. On Channel 0 all corresponding receivers can be activated at once.

Channel 0 (all screen devices)
UP button (2 times)

Code:
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:05:24 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        2
rawlen:        164
binlen:        41
pulselen:    314

Raw code:
5338 1884 628 314 314 942 314 942 314 942 314 942 628 314 314 942 314 942 314 942 628 314 314 942 314 942 314 942 314 942 314 942 314 942 628 314 314 942 314 942 628 314 314 942 314 942 314 942 628 628 628 314 314 942 314 942 628 314 314 942 314 942 314 942 314 942 314 942 314 942 314 942 628 314 628 314 628 314 628 314 314 76616 5024 1570 628 314 314 628 314 628 314 628 314 628 628 314 314 628 314 942 314 628 628 314 314 628 314 628 314 942 314 628 314 628 314 942 628 314 314 942 314 628 628 314 314 942 314 942 314 942 628 314 628 314 314 942 314 942 628 314 314 942 314 942 314 942 314 942 314 942 314 942 314 942 628 314 314 942 314 942 314 942 628 10676
Binary code:
11111111111111111111111111111111111111111
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:05:32 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        2
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    320

Raw code:
5120 1600 640 320 320 960 320 960 320 960 320 960 640 320 320 960 320 960 320 960 640 320 320 960 320 960 320 960 320 960 320 960 320 960 640 320 320 960 320 960 640 320 320 960 320 960 320 960 640 640 640 320 320 960 320 960 640 320 320 960 320 960 320 960 320 960 320 960 320 960 320 960 640 320 640 320 640 320 640 320 320 10880
Binary code:
11111111111111111111

Channel 0 (all screen devices)
DOWN button (2 times)

Code:
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:07:07 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        68
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    154

Raw code:
1694 770 308 308 770 308 770 308 770 308 770 770 308 308 770 308 770 308 770 770 308 308 770 308 770 308 770 308 770 308 770 308 770 770 462 308 770 308 770 770 462 308 770 308 770 308 770 770 462 770 462 308 770 308 770 770 462 308 770 308 770 308 770 308 770 308 770 308 770 770 462 770 462 308 770 308 770 770 462 770 10472 5236
Binary code:
00000000000000000000
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:07:07 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        2
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    311

Raw code:
5287 1866 622 311 311 933 311 933 311 933 311 933 622 311 311 933 311 933 311 933 622 311 311 933 311 622 311 933 311 933 311 933 311 933 622 311 311 933 311 933 622 311 311 933 311 933 311 933 622 311 622 311 311 933 311 933 622 311 311 933 311 933 311 933 311 933 311 933 311 933 622 311 622 311 311 933 311 933 622 311 622 10574
Binary code:
11111111111111111111

Channel 0 (all screen devices)
HOLD button (2 times)

Code:
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:09:04 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        70
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    151

Raw code:
1661 755 453 302 755 302 755 302 755 302 755 604 453 302 755 302 755 302 755 755 453 302 755 302 755 302 755 302 755 302 755 302 755 755 302 302 755 302 755 604 453 302 755 302 755 302 755 755 453 755 453 302 755 302 906 755 453 302 755 302 755 302 755 302 755 302 755 755 453 302 755 755 453 302 755 604 453 302 755 755 10570 5134
Binary code:
00000000000000000000
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:09:04 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        2
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    308

Raw code:
5236 1540 616 308 308 924 308 924 308 924 308 924 616 308 308 924 308 924 308 924 616 308 308 924 308 924 308 924 308 924 308 924 308 924 616 308 308 924 308 924 616 308 308 924 308 924 308 924 616 308 616 308 308 924 308 924 616 308 308 924 308 924 308 924 308 924 308 924 616 308 308 924 616 308 308 924 616 308 308 924 616 10472
Binary code:
11111111111111111111

Channel 1 (first screen device)
UP button (2 times)

Code:
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:10:35 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        2
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    318

Raw code:
5088 1590 636 318 318 636 318 636 318 636 318 636 636 318 318 636 318 954 318 636 636 318 318 636 318 636 318 636 318 636 318 636 318 954 636 318 318 954 318 954 636 318 318 636 318 636 318 636 636 318 636 318 318 636 318 636 636 318 318 636 318 636 318 636 636 318 318 636 318 636 318 636 636 318 636 318 636 318 636 318 318 10812
Binary code:
11111111111111111111
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:10:35 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        2
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    318

Raw code:
5088 1590 636 318 318 636 318 636 318 636 318 636 636 318 318 636 318 954 318 636 636 318 318 954 318 954 318 636 318 636 318 636 318 954 636 318 318 636 318 636 636 318 318 636 318 636 318 636 636 318 636 318 318 636 318 636 636 318 318 636 318 636 318 636 636 318 318 636 318 636 318 636 636 318 636 318 636 318 636 318 318 10812
Binary code:
11111111111111111111

Channel 1 (first screen device)
DOWN button (2 times)

Code:
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:11:52 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        2
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    308

Raw code:
5236 1848 616 308 308 924 308 924 308 924 308 924 616 308 308 616 308 924 308 924 616 308 308 924 308 924 308 924 308 924 308 924 308 924 616 308 308 924 308 924 616 308 308 924 308 924 308 924 616 308 616 308 308 924 308 924 616 308 308 924 308 924 308 924 616 308 308 924 308 924 616 308 616 308 308 924 308 924 616 308 616 10472
Binary code:
11111111111111111111
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:11:52 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        70
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    152

Raw code:
1672 608 456 304 760 304 760 304 760 304 760 608 456 304 912 304 912 304 760 608 456 304 760 304 760 304 760 304 760 304 760 304 912 608 456 304 760 304 760 608 456 304 760 304 760 304 760 760 456 608 456 304 760 304 760 608 456 304 760 304 760 304 760 760 456 304 760 304 760 608 456 760 456 304 760 304 912 608 456 608 10640 5168
Binary code:
00000000000000000000

Channel 1 (first screen device)
HOLD button (2 times)

Code:
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:12:56 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        2
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    313

Raw code:
5321 1878 626 313 313 939 313 939 313 626 313 939 626 313 313 939 313 939 313 939 626 313 313 939 313 939 313 939 313 939 313 939 313 939 626 313 313 939 313 939 626 313 313 939 313 939 313 939 626 313 626 313 313 939 313 939 626 313 313 939 313 939 313 939 626 313 313 939 626 313 313 939 626 313 313 939 626 313 313 939 626 10642
Binary code:
11111111111111111111
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:12:56 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        69
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    152

Raw code:
1672 608 456 304 760 304 760 304 760 304 760 608 456 304 760 304 912 304 760 608 456 304 760 304 760 304 912 304 760 304 912 304 912 608 456 304 912 304 760 608 456 304 760 304 760 304 760 760 456 608 456 304 760 304 760 608 456 304 760 304 760 304 760 608 456 304 760 608 456 304 760 608 456 304 760 608 456 304 760 760 10488 5168
Binary code:
00000000000000000000

Channel 2 (second screen device)
UP button (2 times)

Code:
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:14:14 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        2
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    318

Raw code:
5088 1590 636 318 318 636 318 636 318 636 318 636 636 318 318 636 318 954 318 636 636 318 318 636 318 636 318 636 318 636 318 636 318 954 636 318 318 636 318 636 636 318 318 636 318 636 318 636 636 318 636 318 318 636 318 636 636 318 318 636 318 636 636 318 318 954 318 636 318 636 318 636 636 318 636 318 636 318 636 318 318 10812
Binary code:
11111111111111111111
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:14:14 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        72
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    152

Raw code:
1672 608 456 304 760 304 760 304 760 304 760 608 456 304 760 304 760 304 760 760 456 304 760 304 760 304 760 304 760 304 760 304 760 608 456 304 760 304 760 608 456 304 760 304 760 304 760 760 456 608 456 304 760 304 760 608 456 304 760 304 760 608 456 304 760 304 760 304 760 304 760 760 456 608 456 608 456 608 456 304 10944 5168
Binary code:
00000000000000000000

Channel 2 (second screen device)
DOWN button (2 times)

Code:
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:15:44 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        2
rawlen:        34
binlen:        8
pulselen:    182

Raw code:
1638 728 364 364 728 364 728 2366 546 364 364 910 182 910 364 910 546 364 364 728 364 728 364 728 364 728 364 728 364 728 728 364 364 6188
Binary code:
11111111
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:15:44 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        2
rawlen:        54
binlen:        13
pulselen:    331

Raw code:
0 662 331 662 331 993 662 331 331 993 331 662 662 331 331 662 331 662 331 662 662 331 662 331 331 662 331 662 662 331 331 662 331 662 662 331 331 662 331 662 331 662 662 331 662 331 662 331 662 331 331 662 331 11254
Binary code:
1011101101001

Channel 2 (second screen device)
HOLD button (2 times)

Code:
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:16:59 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        2
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    309

Raw code:
5253 1854 618 309 309 618 309 618 309 618 309 618 618 309 309 618 309 927 309 618 618 309 309 618 309 618 309 618 309 618 309 618 309 927 618 309 309 618 309 618 618 309 309 618 309 618 309 618 618 309 618 309 309 618 309 618 618 309 309 618 309 618 618 309 309 927 309 927 618 309 309 618 618 309 309 618 618 309 309 618 618 10506
Binary code:
11111111111111111111
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:16:59 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        69
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    153

Raw code:
1683 612 459 306 765 306 765 306 765 306 765 765 459 306 765 306 765 306 765 612 459 306 765 306 765 306 765 306 765 306 765 306 765 765 459 306 765 306 765 612 459 306 765 306 765 306 765 765 459 612 459 306 765 306 765 765 306 306 765 306 765 765 459 306 765 306 765 612 459 306 765 612 459 306 765 612 459 306 765 612 10557 5202
Binary code:
00000000000000000000

Channel 3 (third screen device)
UP button (2 times)

Code:
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:18:02 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        2
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    309

Raw code:
5253 1854 618 309 309 927 309 927 309 927 309 927 618 309 309 927 309 927 309 927 618 309 309 927 309 927 309 927 309 927 309 927 309 927 618 309 309 927 309 927 618 309 309 927 309 927 309 927 618 309 618 309 309 927 309 927 618 309 309 927 309 927 618 309 618 309 309 927 309 927 309 927 618 309 309 927 309 927 309 927 618 10506
Binary code:
11111111111111111111
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:18:02 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        2
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    309

Raw code:
5253 1854 618 309 309 927 309 927 309 927 309 927 618 309 309 927 309 927 309 927 618 309 309 927 309 927 309 927 309 927 309 927 309 927 618 309 309 927 309 927 618 309 309 927 309 927 309 927 618 309 618 309 309 927 309 927 618 309 309 927 309 927 618 309 618 309 309 927 309 927 309 927 618 309 309 927 309 927 309 927 618 10506
Binary code:
11111111111111111111

Channel 3 (third screen device)
DOWN button (2 times)

Code:
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:19:23 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        2
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    311

Raw code:
5287 1866 622 311 311 933 311 933 311 933 311 933 622 311 311 933 311 933 311 622 622 311 311 933 311 933 311 933 311 933 311 933 311 933 622 311 311 933 311 933 622 311 311 933 311 933 311 933 622 311 622 311 311 933 311 933 622 311 311 933 311 933 622 311 622 311 311 933 311 933 622 311 622 311 311 933 311 933 622 311 622 10574
Binary code:
11111111111111111111
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:19:23 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        70
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    153

Raw code:
1683 612 459 306 765 306 765 306 918 306 765 612 459 306 765 306 765 306 765 612 459 306 765 306 765 306 765 306 765 306 765 306 765 612 459 306 765 306 765 612 459 306 765 306 765 306 765 612 459 765 459 306 765 306 765 612 459 306 765 306 765 612 459 612 459 306 765 306 765 612 459 612 459 306 765 306 765 612 459 612 10710 5202
Binary code:
00000000000000000000

Channel 3 (third screen device)
HOLD button (2 times)

Code:
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:20:31 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        2
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    310

Raw code:
5270 1860 620 620 310 930 310 930 310 930 310 930 620 620 310 930 310 930 310 930 620 620 310 930 310 930 310 930 310 930 310 930 310 930 620 620 310 930 310 930 620 310 310 930 310 930 310 930 620 620 620 620 310 930 310 930 620 620 310 930 310 930 620 620 620 620 310 930 620 620 310 930 620 620 310 930 620 310 310 930 620 10540
Binary code:
11111111111111111111
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:20:31 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        74
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    146

Raw code:
1752 584 438 292 876 292 876 292 876 292 876 730 438 292 876 292 876 292 876 584 438 292 876 292 876 146 876 292 876 292 876 292 876 584 438 292 876 292 876 584 438 292 876 292 876 292 876 584 438 584 438 292 876 292 876 730 438 292 876 292 876 584 438 584 438 292 876 584 438 292 876 584 438 292 730 584 438 292 876 584 10804 4964
Binary code:
00000000000000000000

Channel 4 (forth screen device)
UP button (2 times)

Code:
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:21:57 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        2
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    308

Raw code:
5236 1848 616 308 308 924 308 924 308 924 308 924 616 308 308 924 308 924 308 924 616 308 308 924 308 924 308 924 308 924 308 924 308 924 616 308 308 924 308 924 616 308 308 924 308 924 308 924 616 616 616 308 308 924 308 924 616 308 308 924 616 308 308 924 308 924 308 924 308 924 308 924 616 308 308 924 308 924 308 924 616 10472
Binary code:
11111111111111111111
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:21:58 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        71
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    151

Raw code:
1812 604 453 302 755 302 755 302 906 151 906 604 453 302 906 151 906 302 906 604 453 302 906 302 755 302 755 302 755 302 755 302 906 604 453 302 906 302 755 604 453 302 755 302 755 302 755 755 453 604 453 302 906 302 906 604 453 302 755 604 453 302 755 302 906 302 755 302 755 302 755 755 302 302 755 151 906 302 755 604 10721 5134
Binary code:
00000000000000000000

Channel 4 (forth screen device)
DOWN button (2 times)

Code:
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:23:24 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        2
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    311

Raw code:
5287 1866 622 311 311 933 311 933 311 933 311 933 622 311 311 933 311 933 311 933 622 311 311 933 311 933 311 933 311 933 311 933 311 933 622 311 311 933 311 622 622 311 311 933 311 933 311 933 622 311 622 311 311 933 311 933 622 311 311 933 622 311 311 933 311 933 311 933 311 933 622 311 622 311 311 933 311 933 622 311 622 10574
Binary code:
11111111111111111111
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:23:24 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        73
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    151

Raw code:
1661 604 453 302 755 302 755 302 755 302 755 604 453 302 755 302 755 302 755 604 453 302 755 302 755 302 755 302 755 302 755 302 755 755 453 302 755 302 755 755 453 302 755 302 755 302 755 755 453 755 302 302 906 302 906 604 453 302 755 755 453 302 755 302 755 302 755 302 755 604 302 755 453 755 302 755 453 302 755 302 11023 5134
Binary code:
00000000000000000000

Channel 4 (forth screen device)
HOLD button (2 times)

Code:
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:24:34 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        2
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    310

Raw code:
5270 1860 620 310 310 930 310 930 310 930 310 930 620 310 310 930 310 930 310 930 620 310 310 930 310 930 310 930 310 930 310 930 310 930 620 310 310 930 310 620 620 310 310 930 310 930 310 620 620 310 620 310 310 930 310 930 620 310 310 930 620 310 310 930 310 930 310 930 620 310 310 930 620 310 310 930 620 310 310 930 620 10540
Binary code:
11111111111111111111
--[RESULTS]--

time:        Sun May 31 19:24:34 2015
hardware:    433gpio
pulse:        2
rawlen:        82
binlen:        20
pulselen:    310

Raw code:
5270 1860 620 310 310 930 310 930 310 930 310 930 620 310 310 930 310 930 310 930 620 310 310 930 310 620 310 620 310 620 310 620 310 930 620 310 310 930 310 930 620 310 310 930 310 620 310 930 620 310 620 310 310 930 310 620 620 310 310 620 620 310 310 930 310 930 310 620 620 310 310 930 620 310 310 620 620 310 310 930 620 10540
Binary code:
11111111111111111111
 
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#4
@meloen, want to give it a shot?
 
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#5
I tried to find any reasonable pattern in the raw code. But I was not successful in doing that. Sending raw codes with pilight works well and the 3T screen switch is reacting accordingly. I fear that using raw codes as an "ugly" workaround is not possible with pilight device configuration, right?
 
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#6
Nope, a protocol needs to be developed to control devices from a fixed device setup
 
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#7
I assume that these components are not being used so often. Is there any chance that a protocol for pilight could be developed? If needed I can collect additional information.
 
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#8
I think I have now identified the full logic. The problem was the bad quality of my recorded signals.
The full sequence is 82 pulses in total with 2 header pulses and 2 footer pulses.
Each sequence has to be separated into groups of 2 pulses (“low” pulse is 310 / “high” pulse is 620)
The header digit 1 has a value of 17*310 = 5270
Header digit 2 is 4*310 = 1240
Footer digit 1 is 2*310 = 620
Footer digit 2 is 34*310 = 10540
Each group can contain a high pulse / low pulse pattern or a low pulse / high pulse pattern
The first digit within the 2-pulses-group defines if it is a high (H) digit or a low (L) digit

Typical sequences are:
HLLLLHLLLHLLLLLLHLLHLLLHHLLH LLLL LLLHLLL (Screen-Up-command received from my 1st remote control)
HHHLHLLLLLLLLHLHLLLLLLHHLLHL LLLL LLLHLLL (Screen-Up-command received from my 2nd remote control)

The digits 1 to 28 within the pulse sequence are unique for each used remote. This is obviously the system ID of the remote control device. Values from 0 to 268435455 are possible (and working).

The digits 29 to 32 represent the unit code. Values from unit 0 to 15 are possible (and working).
LLLL corresponds to 0000 (unit 0; activates all screens); works well
LLLH corresponds to 0001 (unit 1); works well
LLHL corresponds to 0010 (unit 2); works well
and so on....
HHHH corresponds to 1111 (unit 15); works well

The last digits 33 to 39 within the pulse sequence execute the screen commands:
Screen Up: LLLHLLL; works well
Screen Down: LLHHLLH; works well
Screen Hold: LHLHLHL; works well

Here are some examples according to that logic.
This should be a good basis for writing the protocol, right?


Attached Files
.txt   ScreenDown Channel 0 final.txt (Size: 365 bytes / Downloads: 35)
.txt   ScreenHold Channel 2 final.txt (Size: 365 bytes / Downloads: 17)
.txt   ScreenUp Channel 15 with Sender ID 1.txt (Size: 367 bytes / Downloads: 17)
 
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#9
I'm actually pretty sure you are capable of adapting one of the protocol files to incoorporate your logic Smile
 
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#10
(09-19-2015, 09:37 PM)curlymo Wrote: I'm actually pretty sure you are capable of adapting one of the protocol files to incoorporate your logic Smile

Hi curlymo,
thanks for your answer. Since I am quite new to writing pilight protocols.... Do you have a proposal for a similar existing protocol file, which i could "misuse" for the adaption to the 3T components? I do my best to create working protocol stuff.
 
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